Monday, May 25, 2015

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You will "Grow into" Your Partner and Your Marriage

One advantage of being in an Indian marriage (arranged) mindset is that there is no such thing as soulmates. I don't believe in soulmates, and I think that is just the one thing that the West's ideas of love and marriage have gotten wrong. I think that instead of soulmates, there are many people that you can be compatible with and live your life with, some more compatible than others.
 
However, one disadvantage of not believing in soulmates is that your parents think you can just settle with anyone, even if you don't love them. Isn't that what the whole idea of arranged marriage is about? That you find a girl or boy, ask them a few questions, and if your values/beliefs match, then there is no need to sweat the small stuff, such as likes and dislikes. There is some truth to this, but at the same time you have to be similar enough where you can understand each other.

One good analogy for this is niceness. Most people are nice, that is a fact, or maybe something I choose to believe in. Also, most people want a partner who is also nice. With that logic, people would be compatible with almost everyone they meet, however we know that's not the case. There has to be that something that makes you feel like you click on a different level than you click with most people you meet.

But it seems that Indian parents vehemently want to believe in this logic. When they find someone your age with the same mindsets as them, they think that at first you won't mix but "theere theere love ho jayega". They think if you live with someone for a long time, love will automatically form. That is why in their main criteria, they look for how much money a boy earns and if he is from a "respectable" family, or how educated, religious and homely a girl is, instead of looking at how they fit with their child.

That is why if there is a very eligible bachelor in town, and all the girls' families want him, girls are told that they would be lucky to have him, even if they have nothing in common and radically different ideas. It is almost like the guy/girl has to make the parents' checklist before making it into the child's checklist, even though it is the child that has to spend their life with that person.

If a marriage isn't working out, then elders tell the couple it will 'take some time' and to 'adjust'. And the girl is especially supposed to mold herself seamlessly into her husband's family. You are told you will "grow into" the marriage. But does that really happen?

That's why the comment below from this thread on Reddit really stuck me (especially the underlined part).
It depends. If the girl is from the same mindset as your parents(traditional, religious), you probably won't 'grow into it' because the two of you are so ideologically different.
Your parents probably don't understand the complete situation from your point of view. They probably think you just have a few different lifestyle choices and tastes, and it's a passing phase which you will grow out of, but both you and I know it's more than that.
If you are really lucky, your parents will find a girl with a similar mindset as yours. But otherwise, you will not settle down with a girl who is radically different from you.

Thursday, April 30, 2015

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Ray Rice Controversy and Black Double Standards and Sexism

Taken from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/10/black-mens-excuses-for-ray-rice-sound-a-lot-like-the-ones-darren-wilsons-supporters-used-in-ferguson/

I really liked this article, especially because of everything happening in Baltimore right now. I couldn't help but think of this picture:

Black women are always so vocal and passionate when it comes to racial matters but because of this sexist issues get sidelined and are not always supported by both black women and especially black men.



Black men. Fellas. Brothers.
Stop complaining about Ray Rice’s (much deserved and yet woefully insufficient) punishment. Right now.
When we are beaten, slain and otherwise persecuted, our sisters, our mothers, and our women stand for us with nearly unilateral, unwavering support. They march for us. They cry out our names and demand justice. They support us in our moments of quiet fear when we shed the bitter tears of self-doubt and fatigue.
Why aren’t we doing the same?
Stephen A. Smith wasn’t alone in blaming black women for the violence against them. Too many black men are making shameful attempts to explain away the punch that Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice laid on his then-fiancee, Janay Palmer. The caught-on-tape abuse earned Rice an indefinite suspension from the NFL this week. That’s the least he should suffer for knocking a woman unconscious. It’s foolish to watch that video and see it any other way.
And yet, black men are complaining about Ray Rice’s punishment and diminishing his actions:
“It couldn’t have been that bad. She married him.”
It doesn’t matter.
“She should know he’s a big man and, if provoked, he’s gonna hit back.”
It doesn’t matter.
It doesn’t matter.
“He’s trained to hit. He can’t stop it. It’s a reflex.”
That’s absurd and, even if it were true, it doesn’t matter.
When you say these kinds of things — when you look for ways to go easy on Ray Rice — you are doing two things: First, you’re telling black women, “Your lives and your sense of safety have less value to me than the recreational sports that I watch ritually.” You’re telling the women who stand for you, cry for you and demand justice for you, “Thanks for all that, but don’t mess with my game.” You damage their feeling of safety with you. You reinforce the perception that they are alone in their struggle. All of that leaves them even more vulnerable in a society that so often leaves them behind.
The second thing you do – and this is irony – is borrow from the script of people like Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson’s supporters. Let’s compare notes:
“He shouldn’t have been in the street.”
It doesn’t matter.
“He should have listened to the cop.”
It doesn’t matter.
“It was reflex. Cops are trained to shoot to kill. He couldn’t help it.”
Are you seeing the terrifying parallel? None of these excuses matter.
Brothers, recognize wrong and stand up for what’s right. Whatever happened between Ray and Janay Rice, and whatever they did to patch things up, is irrelevant. The bottom line is that no man has business hitting — let alone knocking out — any woman over a spat. He should regard the use of his body against her as lethal force and exercise restraint above all else.
Stop complaining about Ray Rice’s suspension. Stop minimizing his behavior. Stop giving in to blind idol worship.
And stop sipping your tea. This is your business.
When one of our sisters is hurt, abused or in peril, it’s our business. Because when some authority has us jammed against a car with guns drawn on us, they always make it their business to speak out. They throw themselves in peril to see us safe.
It’s a shame when we cannot do the same.

Sunday, April 26, 2015

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AIIMS Doctor commits suicide after long history with gay husband


Dr. Priya Vedi, on right shown with her gay husband

I can't help but think that from the outside, this looks like a perfect, ideal match that all parents aspire their children to have. Both are fair, beautiful people and both followed their mummi-puppas wishes to study hard and become the most idealized career in all of India, doctor. And when it was time to marry, both did the traditional arranged marriage and followed their parents in that. The bride was particularly beautiful, smart but took care of the household's needs and followed traditional rules like wearing a mangalsutra and rakhi. The husband was traditionally macho, with no hint of a smile and the typical domineering Indian husband. In the photo, he has one hand in his pocket and the other possessively over his wife.
I can imagine the marriage to be heavily celebrated from both sides, with parents patting themselves on the back for finding such a perfect match, especially for the girl since her parents are tailors. Both sides placed a lot of emotional, financial and physical investment in the marriage, each knowing it would earn them respect in the society. Their children were the cause of their happiness.

With all this pressure on them to succeed and look like a perfect match from the outside, no one could tell what was really happening on the inside. Indian society is truly about building an illusion of perfection.

They followed the path to happiness, both by their genetic good looks and academic studies, so it is important to wonder, what went wrong?

Monday, April 13, 2015

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This could not have come at a better time...

As you know I am in the middle of my own arranged marriage dilemma....I have talked about it at length before and my parents are outright pressuring me to move forward with the matches they have selected....criteria being theirs of course that he should be vegetarian, Gujarati , Brahmin and a doctor with distinction and very obedient to tradition and religious. They've never acted like this before so it's really freaking me out and I can't even get through a conversation on an unrelated subject without this coming up. My parents, especially mom has retro ideas about how girls need to be taken care of financially and protected so they think they are fulfilling their duty by finding someone like that for me. Of course they want me working but my salary s only seen as a plus to his. They even said they would be not be comfortable with me dating a lot of people because it's "not in our culture" to be with more than one person and then dump them and pick another. They also want the guy to be another "Sahara" to them for moral support.
It seems like indian parental love is expressed really different than American because my dad doesn't say he loves me but he says it by proclaiming that HE will only get me married to a doctor, no one else, only the best for his daughter. It is slow and subtle manipulation disguised as love and emotional blackmail, saying stuff like "the good ones are snatched up early" and "you won't find anyone better than him" and "don't you trust us? Don't you want to make us happy?"


I have agreed to an interview since they spent about $700 pimping me out and putting out matrimonial ads describing me as beautiful, essentially exchanging beauty for money. When I told my mom that she said "we don't say stuff like that" and "you fulfill each other's needs...it's not a transaction if we both get what we're looking for in each other". They basically said there's no shame in being a gold digger and it's My money too after we're married. Also they said they will give me $5 each interview. I have no interest in continuing further and I told them that not to get their hopes up even though they seemed more excited than me. I will post an update later.

Thursday, February 19, 2015

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So True!

http://feminisminindia.com/age-old-patriarchal-practices/

Tuesday, February 10, 2015

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Occasional Link Day!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/sunday-times/deep-focus/Pants-prejudice/articleshow/46161141.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=TOI

https://freemindtree.wordpress.com/2014/03/07/being-the-modern-age-bahus/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2013/07/06/how-to-talk-when-a-prospective-groom-comes-to-see-you-101/
 http://feminisminindia.com/iitiimshaadi-com/
http://feminisminindia.com/photos-msrit-students-challenge-gender-stereotypes/
http://archive.mid-day.com/columnists/2013/apr/280413-opinion-rahul-da-cunha-i-am-the-great-indian-male.htm

http://campuswriting.com/2013/07/02/a-big-fat-indian-wedding/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/how-did-we-turn-into-such-a-regressive-society/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/because-you-are-a-girl-you-are-not-entitled-to-love/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/because-you-are-a-girl-you-are-not-to-choose-what-you-wear/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/love-or-arraigned-marriage/



https://ultramatrimony.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/love-economy/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/because-you-are-a-girl-you-are-not-entitled-to-love/

https://moonymadness.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/marriage-the-indian-way/

https://gurtejthegps.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/marriage-the-biggest-trading-in-india/

https://ultramatrimony.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/the-culture-of-arrange-marriages-in-india/



http://tvaraj.com/2013/05/17/an-email-from-an-indian-father-i-want-to-place-on-record-my-own-story-as-a-warning-to-anyone/

https://ultramatrimony.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/the-culture-of-arrange-marriages-in-india/

https://ultramatrimony.wordpress.com/2014/06/17/arranged-marriages-in-modern-times/

https://ultramatrimony.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/to-find-the-best-for-the-rest-of-your-life/

http://campuswriting.com/2013/07/02/a-big-fat-indian-wedding/

https://indianhomemaker.wordpress.com/2013/07/05/youre-going-to-be-with-your-in-laws-for-only-a-few-days-in-a-year-so-why-cant-you-live-the-way-they-want-and-keep-every-one-happy/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/a-cute-letter-from-a-newly-married-indian-girl-to-her-mother/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/the-day-i-stopped-smiling-at-strangers/

https://motherhoodnmore.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/arranged-marriage-vs-choice-marriage/

http://feminisminindia.com/be-like-a-lady/

http://feminisminindia.com/subtle-sexism-pets-feminism/

http://feminisminindia.com/a-letter-from-indian-men/

http://feministing.com/2015/02/09/chart-of-the-day-male-profs-are-geniuses-female-ones-are-bossy/

http://thedailyheadline.com/2015/02/theyve-married-56-years-first-time-theyve-answered-question/

https://thereandtheir.wordpress.com/2013/05/05/a-letter-from-the-great-indian-guys/

Sunday, February 8, 2015

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1 Step Forward, 2 Steps Back

Even in America, which is considered to be one of the most egalitarian countries in the world and a "1st World" country, has people like these....

Item 1: http://www.thegloss.com/2011/03/02/sex-and-dating/smart-men-tell-us-why-they-date-dumb-women/

The comments on this are atrocious. Yes, the men surveyed might have their own opinions regarding why they want a "stay at home, dumb" gal and that is their own preference.
Here are the award winning comments: (/s)

It's obvious that the Male biology (and ego) makes us want to be the dominant one in the relationship, I think every guy admitted to this in some way. But I think Hedge Funder hints at an important point. The Female biology wants a mate that she can look up to or respect as her superior in some way. Otherwise she loses respect for him and with that goes desirability as a mate. As he says, "Every alpha woman I know wants to be with a man who is as successful as her or more so." Men do NOT need this. Every man I know, after maturing past sowing their oats as it were, wants a woman that can love him in a way that he feels secure in her love. Whether that's cooking him dinner, being there emotionally after a rough day at work, having intellectually stimulating conversation, being a partner in business, a travel companion, bearing him healthy children or simply being an affectionate lover all varies by guy. Whatever it is for him, that's enough. She doesn't need to be successful, smart or anything else.
So picture this: You're a semi-successful, attractive business man. You're not really aware of what that key female trait is for you, but your heart draws you to it anyway so you don't need to be. Now, you are drawn to both a waitress and professional business woman. Who is it easier to Get Noticed By? Who is it easier to Impress? (Yes we all want to feel like we are impressing you!) Who is it easier to spend time with? Who is it easier to fall in Love with? If, in this scenario, the guy would be just as happy with either woman, Who would you choose?

Women are like assets. Dumb women are easier to manage and therefore more valuable. It’s that simple.

Smart girls are the NAGGERS, which also causes stress.
Maybe if smart girls get to spend the man's money they'll shut up, actually I've seen it and no they still nag more than the stupid happy girl.

In short, dumb girls are easy.
No, no, they're hot and easy. You forgot the upside!

women certainly have become very mean to us men and stupid over the years.
perhaps that is why the bible says women must be kept subservient to men. I'm agnostic myself, but all things considered, the bible does seem like a good guide to living life well, especially for stupid people who lack the wisdom to know any better (ie, women)

I want to dominate the relationship (in a virtual way... she wont be my slave, but I like the feeling). Intelligent women wont take that. TURN OFF!!Women may sometimes be somewhat intelligent, but seldom wise.
You feminists want equal opportunities and pay? Okay hypothetically let's say you get it, but afterwards you will complain that your man doesn't make more money than you and that you WANT to feel inferior? Why don't you quit your job and start learning how to please a man then biatches, you can't have both at the same time, doesn't take a genius to see that.
You create your own problems and blame the man for them. Is it any wonder why you turn men off? The only option you rich ladies have is to equally do as men do and try to buy a boytoy, and don't complain about it because we sure don't complain about hot bimbos.

Thanks, someone had to express that sentiment. It's always annoying to read about men using women to bolster their egos.
But of course what you say is not true. Most women, with their backwards laws of sexual attraction, still want these men more than any others, despite the force of reason in the back of their minds telling them these guys have used many women and have a 99% higher chance of being infected. As anyone who's taken at least psychology 101 should know, this isn't just pop psychology.
But all women are dumb, don't you see?

Perhaps with dumb women there are less questions to answer when they date them and they can satisfy them with gifts and all.

#1 and #7 are spot on. Two people who work like demons won't have any time for each other at all. One person has to be the hunter, the other, the gatherer. Hedge fund guy is a bottom-line, brass tacks person who can understand this. It isn't so much what people 'want,' it's what workable, and what isn't, according to the resources and capabilities at hand.
Think hedge-fund guy is a bit 'cold? 'in his practical way of thinking? Think about it this way; if we didn't have people like him - people who are capable of cutting through the emotional fluff to the raw data that helps SOLVE PROBLEMS - we'd be screwed.
#7 thinks in terms of economics. Also a good way to measure things.

someone tell matt langer to shut the fuck up (matt was the only feminist on the thread)

I don't think this question is thoroughly precise but by the way it is ask I presume the answer would be "because it is less intimidating to the ego of the man, and less pressure on him to start anything with a easier woman. "smart women" tends to be corrective and takes it too literally" Dating is meant to be fun.
smart women have big ego's and are actually more stupid than "stupid" girls who have much easier lives shopping and playing all from just looking good and leveraging their power of physical attraction to the fullest. They are jealous that their schooling didn't get them farther in life than the lazy ditz that just used the age old method prostitution. They are jealous that they are uglier too I bet.

In my experience a woman has no use for a man she looks down on. If she's taller, or smarter, or makes more money, that's one strike against him.
Why would a guy waste his time when he's already behind on the count?


A woman can't love a guy she doesn't respect. If there are more 'betters' on her side than his, she will never respect that guy enough to love him. Period. End of story.
How many high-caliber, urban career women do you know who are dating high-school teachers, union electricians, or cable installers? None? I thought so.
Let' stop slinging the crap and get with reality. Nature is what it is. Accept it, or suffer.


No man of any substance dates a stupid woman for very long. However, only douche-nozzles like Matt Langer find women sexy because they retain vague intellectual qualities. Intelligence is an essential part of a LTR for me, but to call it sexy makes you tantamount to the biggest "fucking toolbox" I know.


2. Item 2: "Like A Girl" Video




Here were one of the comments that really got me down. Our world might be improving in terms of gender relations but if parents teach children that gender equality doesn't matter then it will go on for generations. You can just imagine this little boy growing up to laugh off feminism and not give another thought to what are supposed to be thought provoking commercials like these.

So we're watching the Superbowl. We'd already had one awkward commercial with the domestic violence "pizza" 911 call. But when this "like a girl" spot comes on, it just got real quiet. When it finished, it was like people didn't know what to say. There was kind of a pregnant pause between the ads. At the moment of maximum embarrassment, my son lets out this huge sighing type yawn. I put my arm around him and said, "oh yeah, me too, man." People lost it and laughed for a good two minutes then. (The commercials are just crap this year. What a joke.)

Men are stronger, taller and faster than women, we are better in spatial coordination and have a better sense of direction, we have better hand-eye coordination and more precise control of large muscle movement and we have a better sense of perspective, all this makes us better at sport, it's undeniable, in most sports top female athletes can't compete with their top male counterparts, so it makes perfect sense to say like a girl when it comes to sports.

Since these traits are hardwired into the female brain, did it ever occur to you (feminists) that from an evolutionary standpoint, females are not supposed to have high confidence and self-esteem?
There is almost always a reason for everything in this world being the way it is...
Did you ever think girls lack self-confidence for a reason determined by nature and that you are fighting nature?
 
 
You run, hit, fight, throw, etc. like a girl because women are physically weaker than men.
That's why in sports you have women's league and men's league.
Get an all female team play against an all male team in any sport, see who wins.
 
Lmfao "a girl's confidence plummets when they start puberty" What about males? the male suicide rates are way higher..
 
 
The way the little girls ran and punch kind of proved that they're not very good at it
 
One of the most annoying things for me is when someone tries to prove me, that I insult him/her but I don't do that in fact. Phrase "like a girl" is insulting for men, but not for women. If I would say "You wear like girl" to guy would that be insult for women? No! That would be insult for this guy. So why saying "You run like girl" is an insult for women?! I have no damn idea why.
Anyways, a few days ago I saw woman, which literally was running "like girl" and I thought this is very cute. Then I remembered this feminist bullshit, so I returned here to say what I think about that.
 
I disagree with this...Its NOT meant as an insult..its TRUE! That most girls do those things..its not a slam but reality...Stereo Types arent bad, they are reality...ONLY in the last 3-4 years have stereo types become NEGATIVE...Yes people get offended, it happens...cant please everyone...sorry! Our society seems to be losing the ability to laugh at yourself olr to accept yourself...
 
it's not a matter of insulting, it's scientific fact, girls are not built to be athletic. before puberty, we are equal to boys, after it we are not. when i was in 6th grade i could run fast and do pull ups, in 7th grade i could not.
Girls are sissies if my opinion and should stick to playing with dolls.
 
Why is it that Girls must want to be like boys? Everyone knows that in the early phase of life girls develop faster than boys mentally and even physically but then later their bodies change as do boys. This is normal and mainly due to testosterone. Please people can we stop forcing girls to try to be boys and boys to try to be girls. I am so sick of a homogenous society where everyone must be equally good at everything and no-one is allowed their own identity whether thats a mental identity, gender or emotional one. Everyone is different race, religion, gender etc all combine to make us a world of unique people. Please stop forcing us to all be the same and rather appreciate the wonder of all out uniqueness.
 
Why do you think that whenever something comes out to empower women, men have to always put it down and trivialize and dismiss it? What was your "favorite" comment from this, and what would your response be to it? What do you think about all of this.